![]() ![]() They’ll also make your shooting experience much more enjoyable, which will help you become more proficient and, in the end, greatly enhance your traditional bowhunts. Bows that are designed with quality in mind and are built to fit you personally will help level the learning curve just a bit. While it’s true that range time with a recurve or longbow is the only way to truly become proficient, there is one purchase that can bump you ahead a few spots in the line to tight groups and deflated lungs - a good bow. When it comes to getting good with a trad bow, there are no shortcuts. These bowhunters are discovering that the challenge of going instinctive is a no-joke endeavor that requires gobs of patience and commitment. ![]() In the bowhunting world, a similar movement is occurring in which more and more bowhunters are setting down their compounds and picking up traditional bows. Because of this creeping reality, some folks are going the contrarian route and stepping back from their phones and tablets. The more we stare at brightly lit screens for instant entertainment, the more we move a little further away from nature. The precious few companies that make ILF recurve risers should at least listen to what their customers want.It’s no secret that technology is slowly smothering our everyday lives. No wonder compound shooters are gravitating more toward Mathews, it's their ego and attitude. Shouldn't be a problem with Hoyt but it always seems to be some issue or another with Hoyt. Same problem with the awesome WW Black Wolf which I have, they at least have an excuse for being a Korean company and there is a language barrier with the people that run it. None of them were cut far out enough center for the preferred hunting rest I use AND have sight/quiver holes and that includes all those you named. Why do you sound irritated for someone posting about a known problem, do you get anything from Hoyt? And yes smart guy I did do my research and bought other risers. It is a damn good riser that is why I'm complaining. Even many, if not most, of the 15" metal risers have quiver/sight holes. I'm not the only one to complain about this, many people are unhappy the 17" riser doesn't have quiver/sight holes. Coincidence? I think not, these know-it-alls don't think very highly of their customers. That's why before the Satori they made many metal hunting risers that have all been discontinued. They only give you what they want to give you, not what the market demands. This is the same arrogant company who didn't know people were hunting and shooting shorter ILF risers including their entry level Hoyt Excel after decades of this market sustaining itself. And yes I am complaining to hopefully get their attention. ![]() Who said I bought one smart guy? Looked at one and knew it was Hoyt's and Eichler's ego that ruined a perfect hunting riser for me. I would email them but everyone knows those emails disappear into some black hole account that will never get answered. I'm just hoping the new ones don't have the signature plate and Hoyt drilled them for sight holes. I thought Hoyt had finally made the perfect hunting riser until I turned it around and noticed that ,unlike their 19" and 21" versions, there were no sight/quiver holes because there wasn't enough room due to the stupid Eichler signature emblem. All the other options that are 17" and have the correct sight holes are not cut enough past center for me to use my preferred rests. The other one that comes close is the WW Black Wolf but it has the same problem. Now that Fred Eichler is no longer with Hoyt will they finally fix their Satori risers and take his stupid signature plate off of the risers and drill the 17" version with sight/quiver holes? I'm venting because there is literally no 17" ILF riser that is cut past far enough out from center AND has sight/quiver holes. ![]()
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